LS Re: Explain the subject-object metaphysics

kenneff (
Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:37:20 +0100

Hi Squad,

This is my first post, and I just wanted to ask a question in relation
to something Diana said, which I quote below:

> That's how it appears to us stuck in the SOM, but we have to consider
> how it appears to non-intellectual beings. A tree doesn't see itself as
> different from the soil or the rain. A bird doesn't know it's a bird.
> You might speculate that some of the higher animals have glimmers of
> intellect but, for the most part, their existences move between dynamic
> and static. Animals protect themselves through pure instinct, they have
> absolutely no choice about it.

How can we be so sure that a bird doesn't know its a bird. It may not
have the concept of "bird", as distinct from say, lizard, fish or cat -
these are human concepts with which we categorize and describe the world
around us, but how can we be so sure that these creatures are not aware
of themselves in some way? I am not being flippant with this question,
just genuinely curious as to how we can know this for certain...


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